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When did we agree to let money-grabbing, cheating,
untrustworthy politicians, have the final say over our dead bodies?
Who gave the bureaucrats in the Welsh assembly the right to
adopt a system of presumed consent for the donation of the people of Wales’ organs’
after their death?
The proposed opt-out system, which could be introduced in
2015, would mean everyone living in Wales, is to be regarded as a willing organ
donor when they die, unless they state otherwise.
What these politicians seem to have forgotten is that people
have to die first whether they have opted-in or opted-out; by definition a live
person isn’t a donor at all and some, understandably incensed by this proposal,
will definitely now opt out.
The word ‘donation’ means an act or instance of presenting
something as a gift; a grant, or a contribution. And a gift is how it should
remain; to be given or bequeathed by its owner, not by some official, by proxy!
Just because mankind has developed the technology of
transplanting organs, does not mean that ‘the state’ should assume the right to
decide for us, whether to ‘give’ our organs, or not.
George Orwell wrote better than he thought regarding a
fictitious ever increasing authoritarian state that imposed its will on its
citizens for the supposed greater good, me thinks!
So who are those who will be taking the compulsory decisions to cut out organs and provide who knows who with such transfers.
ReplyDeleteI am not knocking any donors or the need of recipients,its just I do not trust the health service for its track record is seriously flawed in many area`s,such as here in Tameside.
The most disgusting aspect concerning the health care of Tamesider`s, is the deplorable,vile and endemic negligence which has been shown by Tameside Hospital for years backed to the hilt until now by the PCT and TMBC with nepotism absolutely rank throughout all these administrations,and now the 3 MP`s are being promoted as bastions of Tamesiders health care as they get on their sickening pedestals
proclaiming their suggested success at getting rid of 2 only top Hospital Staff.
This is exactly how the ruling scum continually act in Tameside.
All the healthcare committees (and there`s loads in the region),healthcare panels and scrutiny panels filled with non medical sheer cheek parasites who have all backed those involved and responsible for the dead and the disgusting negligence endemic at the Hospital.
The removal of many individuals sat in healthcare positions in Tameside need carting right now because they also have the blood of the dead and neglected on their arms up to their arm pits.
They will now regroup again as the new healthcare pretenders who are a disgrace to humanity in Tameside.
All those involved and with links in the past twenty years with Tameside Hospital should have been investigated by an independent Police Force because too dish out such deliberate hospital negligence causing deaths
and suffering should have been found guilty and imprisoned to safeguard the thousands of public from these offenders.
Those are the facts which like myself many hundreds of Tamesiders can confirm.
So sweep through TMBC,PCT CCG members and dispense with all those closely involved in the Hospital scandal for years which has caused much real suffering and despair.
Perhaps the notorious BMA
leader who regularly appears on behalf of the Labour Party in Tameside should be one of the first to go,with the 3 MP`s as well for never openly showing disgust and shame over many years at what has been meted out to the men,women,children and babies in Tameside.
All of those closely linked over years to these disgraced two people now named for a start, should pack their bags right now because of their direct complicity in the notorious long standing scandal.
J.Hall
This isn't organ donation, this is organ requisition.
ReplyDeleteShould you have read this above then read the devious trash and real sodding smarmy rhetoric from A Gwynne MP when he spoke in Parliament this week:
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Andrew Gwynne (Denton and Reddish, Labour)
I agree with my hon. Friend. Had she been listening to BBC Radio Manchester this morning, she would have heard me making precisely that point. The situation at Tameside is incredibly frustrating for me and my hon. Friends the Members for Stalybridge and Hyde (Jonathan Reynolds) and for Ashton-under-Lyne (David Heyes). Whenever we meet the chief executive and chair of Tameside hospital—we do so frequently—they always give us excuses as to why Tameside is different from the rest of Greater Manchester because of the industrial legacy and poor health outcomes in the borough, but one could make exactly the same arguments for Salford: there is no reason why one part of Greater Manchester should have an excellent hospital while another has one with long-term problems.
Part 2 by J.Hall continued
04/07/2013 18:43
Anonymous said...
PART 2
My response by J.Hall
Such a pity the House of Commons system does not allow your Constituents to hear,see,and know the real truth about you and your close friends and Councillors who have guarded and protected the Tameside Hospital executives for years and your Labour network of individuals who have been more than close to the Hospital Chief Executive as part of her defence are an insult to humanity and the "decent" folk of Tameside seeing they are and have been directly complicit in why people died and were neglected.
Mr Gwynne as always you will screw any opportunity in the Advertioser,Reporter,and now Radio Manchester to declare how whiter than white you are,.when the honest real facts are that you are the Tameside league leader in Hypocrisy,Deceptions,
Manipulations,and with no guts whatsoever to admit your own despicable role in causing serious health problems for thousands of your own Constituents.
Then you had the bloody cheek to come out in the Commons with this:
I quote:
Let me now turn to the funding crisis in social care. The Library’s analysis, which is borne out by the Local Government Association’s statistics, shows that Government funding reductions have forced local authorities to reduce their adult social care budgets by £2.7 billion over the last three years. They have had to slash services and increase charges in order to balance their books, leaving thousands of vulnerable older and disabled people facing a daily struggle to get the care and support they desperately need.
"NO Mention at all" from you Mr.Gwynne of how you duped the taxpayers with your own flawed expenses,how we pay 3 Councillors in each Ward luxury charges for their part time services,how the £millions paid to Councillors can be justified,and how many are very definitely linked to nepotism paid appointments
to other organisations,and what about Labour Councillors who did not declare their annual outside interests for bloody years as required by all Councillors in the UK.
You may think you can get away with hiding the facts but forget it because your not that clever enough to even be an MP.
J.Hall
No problem with opt-out for organ donations, as long as people can specify who they WOULDN'T like their organs to go to.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure how far you've looked into this, but without a half-decent understanding of the ethics and medical procedures behind transplantation (10,000 need a transplant in the UK and 1,000 die every year whilst waiting) then I wouldn't rush to dismiss the idea.
ReplyDeleteOf course there are many different view on this, but even with opt-out you're still in-control of what happens to your organs after death.
In answer to ‘Anonymous’ who asked how far I've looked at this, I have not said, I was against organ transplants, but I do have concerns over a system which raises the point of who owns the body? The National Health Service (the Government) or your next of kin?
ReplyDeleteWhat will happen when it comes to kid's organs, below 16? Presumably then family consent is necessary. - Or is it?
Some people will standby the principle that if you want to receive, you should be willing to give. That should be a clear condition of opting out - you opt out of giving and opt out of receiving.
However, this could be seen to condone blackmail? Suggesting that someone who opts out should be denied a transplant, and left to die, surely is the worst kind of blackmail.
There is a simple solution to this problem. Leave things as they were and heavily promote the ‘Carry a Donor Card scheme’
Ray, I think you are missing the point. I too agree with organ donation, but the human person and his body does not belong to the state, nor to anyone else, thus under any just system, permission must be sought first, not assumed.
ReplyDeleteThis is what happens when a society loses its sense of natural law. The state simply becomes a power with its own sense of entitlement. It simply assumes to own us, our property and our institutions, unless we can show otherwise.
@ Anonymous 07:48, you're NOT in control of what happens to your organs after death if you can't pre-specify who you DON'T want to receive them. I wouldn't want a drug dealer, paedophile or others to benefit from mine.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to get all philosophical, you could argue that nobody owns the organs of someone after death, unless bequeathed to a relative perhaps.
ReplyDeleteYou own them before you're dead and should be able to pre-specify whether or not you want them used for organ donation. You should also be able to specify those you don't want to receive them.
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